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Oxidation (of copper) w/o flux, Oxidation with flux
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- 0.1 What is the Difference, If Any Between Oxidation, Firescale (Fire Scale) and Firestain (Fire Stain)?
- 0.2 Oxidation: Cause
- 0.3 Why Did My Sterling Silver Turn White?
- 0.4 The Relationship Between Oxidation and Finishing
- 0.5 Avoiding the formation of fire scale/fire stain
- 0.6 Removing Fire Scale/Fire Stain
- 0.7 Further Research
- 0.8 What the Heck are Copper Oxides?
- 0.9 Fire Scale/Fire Stain
- 0.10 Ways to prevent Fire Scale/Stain
- 0.11 Removing firescale once you’ve obviously overheated it!
- 0.12 Flux
- 0.13 Types of Flux
- 1 Related Videos
- 2 Related Web Pages
What is the Difference, If Any Between Oxidation, Firescale (Fire Scale) and Firestain (Fire Stain)?
This is a very good question and one, of which, I’ve seen various contradictory answers.
Jewelry Materials: A Guide to Working with Common Alloys, Technical Editor: James Binnion, states that:
“Firescale and firestain are often used interchangeably, but technically can mean two different thing….Firescale is a dark gray to black scale on the surface of the silver…Firestain is a dark purple subsurface stain…”
Introduction to Precious Metals: Metallurgy for Jewelers and Silversmiths by Mark Grimwade states (on page 95):
“Oxygen in the surrounding air reacts with copper in the alloy to form black cupric oxide (CuO) on the surface and a sub-scale of reddish-grey cuprous oxide Cu20. The silver alloy will take on a blackened appearance that is known as “firestain or “fire scale”.
Deborah E. Love Jemmott states that the two terms are synonymous. Her paper, Firescale on Silver Instructor notes:
“Firescale (a.k.a.: firestain, stain) is that grey/black/purple stain that appears on the surface of sterling silver after it has been heated. When sterling silver is heated in the air, the oxygen in the flame and in the atmosphere attacks some of the copper alloy near the surface. This forms a copper oxide on the surface of the metal. The firescale layer deepens with prolonged heating, over heating or repeated heating. “
Charles Lewton-Brain, in his paper: Dealing with Firescale states:
“Fire scale or fire stain is a reddish purple toned ‘bloom’ or ‘stain’ that appears on silver/copper alloys such as sterling silver when they are heated in the presence of oxygen. It even occurs in gold alloys with high copper contents. As it generally appears in the form of blotchy patches following abrasive polishing it is seen as a blemish which destroys the clear reflectivity of finished silver surfaces.”
So, no clarification there – either on name or spelling – firescale or fire scale. More research for me! Yippee! I’m going to try and get to the root of this!
Oxidation (the copper and oxygen type – there are other definitions of oxidation) is the interaction of the copper with atmospheric oxygen and heat. Oxidation is present in both firescale and firestain.
Oxidation (cupric oxide) develops on metal when heat, a metal alloyed with copper and oxygen are all present (hence the word: “oxidation”). When we heat and pickle a metal alloyed with copper, the copper combines with oxygen and creates Cuprous Oxide Red (Cu20) and Cupric Oxide Black (Cu0). Ever notice how blue your pickle gets after working with sterling, copper, brass, low carat golds or bronze? The blue signifies the presence of copper in your pickle – copper that has been extracted from the sterling (or other copper alloys).
See the section, on this page, titled: “What the Heck Are Copper Oxides” for a more detailed explanation of oxidation.
Why Did My Sterling Silver Turn White?
Well, when we heat up a copper alloy like sterling silver, we are exposing it to high levels of oxygen. Copper reacts with atmospheric oxygen and forms copper oxide – a layer of brown-black stuff. This, unlike rust, protects the metal beneath it.
Whether you’ve annealed or soldered your metal, you’ve probably noticed, that the surface of the sterling developed a matte, white finish. This “white stuff” (as I’ve heard it called) is simply fine silver – created when the copper is leached from the metal leaving only fine silver. Over successive heating/pickling events, the white layers of fine silver build up. Eventually, these layers will be unable to oxidize, as the copper is no longer present. This is often called “bringing up the silver” or more accurately called depletion gilding. Keep this information in mind while reading the following information.
The Relationship Between Oxidation and Finishing
So, you’ve heated your sterling silver either through soldering or annealing. Maybe you’ve overheated it. Maybe you’ve done this a few times. You’ve pickled it after heating. You’ve noticed that the sterling has turned white. But, you really wanted a high shine on this piece so, you pulled out your buffing wheel and some rouge. You were almost done with the finishing BUT, right before you could shout your victory cry, you noticed a bruised-looking area on the metal. “What the *&%*%& is this?” You cursed.
According to Argens’ Scientists, heat in the form of friction from the polishing wheel, acts as a catalyst compelling the copper atoms to rise and re-bond with fine silver atoms on the surface. This re-bonding is evident in the micro-thin discolored surface areas on the polished silver. A second application of heat by flame will completely reverse this process, as the copper descends downward and a pure silver surface remains.
*Quote and graph from: “Firescale: The Chameleon Effect on Sterling Silver” By Martin Ebbers. Snag News, Volume 20 Number 4, August 2012.
So, by creating heat during the finishing process (generated by friction) of our sterling silver, the copper molecules are racing to re-alloy themselves. They tend to re-alloy in clumps creating a mottled appearance. According to the authors, fixing this problem is to heat it again at an even higher temperature! This will once again coat the metal with a layer of fine silver. Yet, when you go to polish again, the same thing will happen. To keep this from happening, we need to figure out how to polish “cold”.
Avoiding the formation of fire scale/fire stain
- Avoid excessively heating the metal.
- Coat the entire piece in a boric acid flux or a firescale preventative like Cupronil or Firescoff. The flux coats the metal and can help to keep the copper in the metal from reacting (oxidizing) with the oxygen in the air. But, fluxes are only effective to a certain temperature (depends on the flux). If the metal is heated past this point, firescale can occur. So, a combination of heat control and flux will help. Try to use a flux that has a high burn off temperature. The Cuprinol and Firescoff seem to work great and I’ve come to rely on them to protect my gold and silver.
- Solder in an oxygen-free environment. Not easy to do at home. Maybe impossible.
- Use a Charcoal block – the burning block of charcoal creates CO2 which removes the oxygen from the silver (to a degree).
- Reducing the amount of time, that the metal is hot, lowering metal temperature and avoiding repeated heating operations, will hopefully, help to reduce the depth to which the oxygen and the oxides penetrate.
- Reducing the amount of oxygen in the flame. Try to use a gassier flame.
- Use Argentium silver or fine silver.
- Use of a “reducing” gas: hydrogen or carbon monoxide. Protective Atmosphere Control. Good luck with this one.
Removing Fire Scale/Fire Stain
- Plate the piece after polishing. Of course, you’ll need plating equipment or you can send it out to be plated.
- Don’t polish to a high shine. Embrace the fine silver surface, have a matte surface, use patinas. Use radial bristle discs or other abrasives and create a textured or matte surface. This is my favorite method.
- Etch off a few layers with acid until the stain is gone. But, can waste silver or destroy designs and patterns.
- File and sand off the stain – which can take a while and may require a bit of elbow grease. Mechanical sanding will be a lot easier than sanding by hand, though (you can use sanding discs and a flex shaft – see my Sanding Page). Also a destructive method as fine designs, textures and patterns can be reduced or destroyed.
- Check out Martinus’s website: Martinus Master Goldsmith for ways to prevent firescale.
- Dealing with Fire Scale by Charles Lewton Brain at Ganoksin.
- Ganoksin Orchid, Discussion on Reduction Atmosphere in a Kiln.
Updated: January 16, 2017.
What the Heck are Copper Oxides?
There are 2 main type of copper oxides.
- Copper/ Cuprous (I) Oxide: Cu2O. A stable copper oxide. Reddish in color.
- Copper/Cupric (II) Oxide: CuO. A stable copper oxide. Black in color.
During the soldering process, copper’s natural oxidizing properties are accelerated. What forms is called: Copper (I) Oxide – red (4 Cu + O2 â†’ 2 Cu2O) and Copper (II) Oxide – black (2 Cu + O2 â†’ 2CuO). Copper Oxide has an entirely different set of properties from the original copper. See Bob Wilson’s explanation of the process below:
“…Cupric Oxide, or CuO is formed when oxygen in the air combines with copper atoms on the surface of metallic copper. Each copper atom on the surface donates two valence electrons to an oxygen atom, thus causing the oxygen atom to bind to the copper atom. The resulting oxide layer is relatively thin at normal temperature, and serves to protect the underlying copper atoms from further corrosion. At normal temperatures, this oxide layer looks like a slight darkening (or tarnishing) of the copper
surface. This protective oxide layer is called a “passivation layer” because it makes the copper surface “passive”, or non-reactive. There are no “free radicals” present or involved.
Some metals are resistant to oxidation and corrosion. They are known as the Noble Metals: Pure gold, pure silver, platinum, palladium, rhodium, etc. The Noble Metals are resistant to corrosion and oxidation in air containing moisture.
Fire Scale/Fire Stain
Fire Scale or Fire Stain is also oxidation but, it is below the surface of the metal. Sterling silver is very prone to firescale. Firescale/stain is a gray/blue/purple coloration that forms in the top layers of the metal. See the beginning of this article (updated 1/16/17) for the reasons that this happens.
Charles Lewton-Brain has written a detailed article on firescale, which can be found on Ganoksin.
Ways to prevent Fire Scale/Stain
- There are many products available that coat your metal. Firescale inhibitors work like flux. They coat the metal with a glaze which protects the metal from interaction with oxygen in the surrounding air. Cupronil and Stop-Ox are just two of them. See the list of fluxes (down a few paragraphs) for other products. Also, you should read the directions on how to use these products. You should. Really. No, I mean it.
- Don’t get the metal too hot. Firescale/oxidation begins to form at temperatures around 1000°F (537.78°C) and extra-easy solder (the lowest melting hard solder) flows at somewhere around 1100°F (593.33°C). A catch 22 perhaps? Saying that, to achieve the firescale on the image (of firescale) above, it took three tries and I nearly had to melt the metal to get it the stain to form.
- Use Argentium silver (scroll down the page, in the link, for info on Argentium) or fine silver instead of sterling silver. Probably the best advice that I can give you. The germanium in the Argentium, coats the metal, preventing oxidation. Period. Fine silver doesn’t contain copper so, that is free from Firescale too. With Argentium, it is not necessary, and is in fact, not recommended to coat the entire piece with flux or a anti-firescale product. It can interfere with germanium’s magical properties. See Cynthia Eid’s fabulous page on soldering Argentium.
Removing firescale once you’ve obviously overheated it!
Here comes the fun part! Guess what, you don’t find firescale (usually) until you are almost done with finishing – usually at the polishing stage. Even worse is that you’ve got to remove the firescale with an abrasives, plating or other such technique. I sand the piece down a layer or two or, if highly detailed, use 3M’s Radial Bristle Discs with the flex shaft. Obviously, the best way to avoid doing this is to prevent it from ever occurring! Please read Mr. Brain’s article on removing firescale. Buy Argentium.
Flux plays many important roles in soldering.
- It is responsible for reducing surface tension, allowing the solder to flow.
- It creates a glaze, on the metal, which protects the metal from interaction with the atmosphere.
- Flux is also used as a temperature indicator when soldering – when either paste or liquid flux reaches solder flow point, they become translucent.
- Flux needs to be compatible with the metal being used. Use fluxes designed for the metal you are using.
- Flux has a temperature ceiling. If the heat present, surpasses the working temperature of the flux, the flux will no longer work. Liquid: 1100°F (593.33C°) – 1700°F (926.67°C) Paste: 1100°F (593.33°C) – 1500°F (°815.56C).
- IF you are using solder paste, check to see if flux is included in the mixture. If it is, you don’t need to flux. But, you might want to add additional flux to protect your sterling from firescale!
Flux is important for soldering, even if your metal doesn’t produce oxidation, like fine silver or argentium silver.
THERE ARE many different types of flux. Below is a list of just SOME of the fluxes available for hard soldering/silver soldering/brazing. Pretty hard to pick just one. I’ve not used Firescoff but, I’m thinking it looks interesting. Nor have I used a gel flux – must try!
- Aqui Flux: Liquid. Boric Acid, Borax, Ammonium Phosphate. Similar to Prips flux.
- Battern’s Self-pickling Liquid Flux: Liquid. Sodium Tetraborate, Boric Acid, Ammonium Chloride. Gold, platinum and silver.
- Cupronil Anti-Firescale: Liquid. Firescale and flux in one. Effective temperatures: 1,100°–1,500°F (593°–816°C). Contains copper, potassium, sodium borate and boric acid.
- Firescoff: Liquid spray. According to the manufacturer, Firescoff works up to 3000°F. Silver, gold, palladium, copper, brass, bronze, titanium and stainless steel. No need for pickle, washes off with water. Prevents fire scale. Firescoff flux is non-flammable; fluoride- and chloride-free. MSDS.
- Firescoff RH: Liquid spray. Works with the above plus, rhodium, gold-filled, or silver-filled, protecting the plated/laminated layer. MSDS.
- Griffith Self Pickle Flux: Liquid (Grobet USA). Borax/Sodium TetraBorate mixture, Uranine 2313.
- Handy Flux: Paste. Fluorides, potassium and hydroxide. Effective temperature range: 1,100°–1,600°F (593°–871°C). Gold, silver, brass, copper and other non-ferrous metals. There are 2 types of Handy Flux: One for silver, gold, brass, copper, bronze and the other for: stainless steel and nickel. The flux for stainless and nickel is called Handy Flux Type B-1. MSDS. Not great for inhaling!!!
- My-T-Flux: Liquid. Gold, silver, brass, bronze, nickel silver and other non-ferrous metals; effective from 1100°-1700°F (593°-927°C). Self-pickling (although I’ve not seen it work!). Contains: ammonium chloride. MSDS.
- Prips Flux: Liquid. Firescale prevention and soldering flux. Silver, copper, brass, bronze, gold. Several layers give a waterproof, glassy skin, good for several solderings. MSDS on File, contact supplier.
- Prips’ Flux by Griffith (Grobet USA). Liquid. Borates and Phosphates – proprietary mix. Flux.
- Dandix Flux: Paste. For use in low temperature brazing and silver soldering ferrous and non-ferrous metals. Begins to dissolve oxides at 800¬_F (427¬_C) and is fluid- active between 1100¬_ and 1600¬_F (593¬_ and 871¬_C). Contains no fluoride. MSDS. Read this opinion on Dandix before purchasing: The Art Files.
- Pro-craft® Jel-flux®: Gel. Stays put like a paste, but will not run like a liquid, and is transparent. Jel-Flux produces less oxides and residues, allowing for faster pickling. No toxic fumes, biodegradable. MSDS.
- Griffith’s Self-pickling Flux: A liquid flux specially formulated to make hard soldering on metals melting under 2000ºF as easy as soft-soldering. MSDS contact supplier.
- Rio Ready-Flux: Liquid. Will not bubble or pop during heating. Gold, silver, nickel, brass, copper and other non-ferrous metals. Self-pickling. MSDS. Note: Contains Ammonium Choloride.
- Magic Boric Soldering Dip: Liquid. Water based, non-flaming Boric acid flux. Prevents oxidation of silver during soldering. MSDS – contact supplier.
- Stop-Ox: Liquid. Anti-Firescale. Used before flux. Effective from 1,100°–1,500°F (593°–816°C).
- Superior Flux #6 for Silver: This paste flux for silver brazing and soldering stays exactly where you want it and helps hold solder in place. Contains no potassium bifluoride and will not release boron trifluoride gases during brazing. Gentle on metals. MSDS. See this blog for a comparison between Superior Flux and Dandix, as well as other fluxes.
So many fluxes, so little time…
Note: contrary to what I have read about the fire scale/stain preventative powers of Paste Flux, Cynthia Eid mentions here, that “Paste fluxes can cause firescale on both AS and SS, so they are not recommended.” Since I do not use paste flux, I have no personal experience to go on. I’d be interested to see what my readers think.
Powder – Various combinations of powders with fluids:
The old-fashioned method for creating flux (which many still use today) is to grind a borax cone, in a ceramic dish, that contains a trace of water. Jewellery Trade has made an informative video on this process. Other methods of creating flux from powders are listed below.
- Boric acid mixed with water, boric acid dissolved in Methyl Hydrate, also know as Methylated Spirits, methyl alcohol, wood alcohol, wood naphtha or wood spirits (you can also add 30% – 50% borax to the mix).
- Boric acid and/or Borax mixed with denatured alcohol or isopropyl or rubbing alcohol (70% – 99% isopropyl alcohol).
- Prip’s Flux. The recipe for Prip’s Flux.
- How to Set Up a Torch – have a torch, need to set it up? Here’s how.
- Soldering 101, part one and Soldering 101, part two
- All About Solder – You need to understand what you are working with!
- Beginning Jewelry Project: Making and Soldering a Pendant. A beginning soldering project to get you started.
- Beginning Jewelry Project: Making and Soldering a Pearl Ring. Another beginning soldering project.
- Flat Square Edges on Metal – Important techniques for creating square edges like on ring shanks, tubing, settings, etc. – pretty much any two pieces that you want to solder together!
- Getting Ready to Solder – Important steps before you solder.
- Identify Wire Solder – Mark your solder before confusion reigns!
- Jewelry Studio Safety – Extremely important information that every jeweler should know! Don’t risk your life or your health! Know the dangers of metal dust? If not, don’t sand anything – yet!
- Creating Consistently Sized Spheres – how do you make perfectly round spheres? You might need to know!
- How to Anneal Silver Sheet – an important skill to have otherwise, you can damage your metal and work twice as hard!
- Annealing Wire – Want broken wire? How about molten wire? Need your wire soft and bendable? These tips will help you to avoid these problems and work with ease!
- DIY Fume Extractor for the Studio or Shop – One of the BIG ONES for studio safety. Learn to make your own!
- How to Make a Bezel and Set a Cabochon Part One – Want to solder thin material too thick? Want to set a stone or two? Learn how to create and solder bezels.
- How to Make a Bezel and Set a Cabochon Part Two – Ditto from above.
Soldering Jewelry: How to solder settings, bails, and wire. – We solder dissimilar shapes and sizes of metal together, all the time. Want to stop melting your settings or bails? Can you solder wire without melting it?
Soldering Jewelry – Sweat, Flush, or Applique Soldering – How to solder two pieces of metal on top of each other. Learn tricks for the successful joining of dissimilar sizes and how to apply solder.
My YouTube Soldering Playlist – A list of all my soldering videos on YouTube.
Related Web Pages
- About Solder – Learn all about the material you use.
- Acetylene, Torch, Tanks, Safety – A huge page with so much more than info on Acetylene! Learn all about torches, soldering and how to protect yourself!
- Charts – Soldering related charts. Includes things like annealing temps, compressed gas valve sizes, what temperature does your gas burn at, what are the melting points of your metal. Also, there are wire gauge charts, the millimeter to fractions and inches charts, drill bits to wire gauge charts. Lots of information!
- Cleaning Metal – nice to know if you plan on soldering anything!
- On Pickle, Acid, Crock Pots, and Baking Soda – How to remove the schmutz left from soldering, how to make your own pickle, how to use pickle and how to neutralize pickle. Tons of info!
- Oxidation, Flux, and Fire scale – Why does oxidation occur? Why do you keep getting fire scale, how do you get rid of it? Learn the whys of what is happening when you solder and the solutions.
- The 4 Steps for Successful Soldering – The 4 steps will help you to achieve soldering success!
- Identifying Wire Solder – How to mark your solder so that you always know what type it is.
- Jewelry Tools – Harbor Freight – Cheap tools for the studio!
- Miter Cutting Vise and Jig: Having a hard time squaring up the ends of your ring shanks? Check out this tool!
- Q&A: Firescale/Firestain – See what others have had problems with and find the solutions!
- Q&A: Annealing – How long to hold your annealing temps. Kiln annealing.
- Q&A: Wire Questions. Balling up wire, tapering wire, work hardening wire, straightening wire and more!
- Recipes: They aren’t just for cookin’ anymore!
- Pickle Recipe – make your own pickle
- Prip’s Flux Recipe – make your own flux
- Removing Broken Drill Bits From Your Metal -snapped your drill bit and can’t get it out? Here’s how to remove broken drill bits.
- Removing Copper Flashing i.e.: How to remove the copper coating you might get from pickling. Also, how to remove copper from brass or bronze that comes to the metal’s surface after soldering.
- Wire and Sheet Metal
- What Torch to Buy: Trying to figure out what you need to make fire in your studio? Check out this information before you buy!
- Soldering Questions – One of the most asked after subjects. Many of my web pages have been inspired by soldering issues and questions.
- Soldering in a Nutshell – my list of basic necessities for soldering.
- Torch/Gas Questions – Portable vs. regular torches, torch problems, butane torches, water torches, setting up a torch safely, buying torches.